Author Topic: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs  (Read 10215 times)

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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2012, 12:37:11 PM »
I believe the line between the blades is a structural detail. Others you can get rid of.

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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2012, 03:17:45 PM »
Well, there always is the capability to do a good P-51D model of....wait for it....the Jelly Belly P-51!

A lot more accurate and than the FG one.

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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2012, 03:27:40 PM »
haha I didn't even think about that one! that would be nice.

Not sure if i would do it though...since its a fairly recent corporate logo usage
and since these are commercial kits, I wouldn't want to do it without permission.

Anybody know someone at Jelly Belly candy?
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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2012, 10:20:30 AM »
That's a must do Dave! Just drop a mail to their marketing director. They have an extensive sponsorship programme and from that there's a candidate for yor HotWheelz collection too. Maybe you could end up doing a deal with them for a line of Jelly Belly models. I'd give it a try if I was you. Check their pages man.



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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2012, 07:16:30 PM »
Latest update on the P-51D design process....

Still working on the base model texturing.
And I still have cockpit, wheel wells, landing gear, etc to sort out.

Haven't even sorted out a first paint scheme yet!
I keep tweaking the basic details and textures.

I think I am happy with this third version...
enough that I have started applying the green cowling, and red paintwork for the Tuskegee planes.

I wasn't going to do it...but I couldn't resist...so I added rivets.

I like it...what do you think?
Not sure how well it will print.
Set the printer on "fine" high res print and it should show up.

Heres a couple of screen shots of the current texture work.





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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2012, 07:19:59 PM »
I like the rivits.  Not sure how they will show up printed, but they are
not obtrusive, very finely done.
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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 02:04:27 AM »
nice progress on P-51D...  IMHO, adding a little details likes rivits,  going to make the model more 'stands out'. .... now, where's the 'like' button?! :D

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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 02:21:36 AM »
one question mr.Dave sir, the tire... going to be a stacked/sandwich  sheet of card or 'boxed?' type tires.

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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 05:07:03 AM »
Dave,
The rivets a in a nice way subtle to my eye. There has been endless debates whether those rivets are visible at all or at what stage of the aircfats lifespan the are - and does painting or lack of it etc. make them more visible or not. This looks good to me. Bright metal surface is hard task to color and I think you've done well so far though you could work those heat color changes near the exhaust a bit further - now it looks like those have been sprayed on (which I guess was the digital tool used). ;-)

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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2012, 08:55:15 AM »
I'm working on the Landing gear for the Canberra...and I am using the sandwich layer approach.
I've added more layers because I want the Tires to be closer to scale dimensions.
But (on the Canberra model) the overall tire is still a little small to offer any other sort of assembly method.

I don't like straight boxed style construction anymore.
And I will only use it for small wheels (like tail Wheels) or on smaller scale models.

This Mustang is big enough to use the same method I used on my Harvard redesign.
I will probably go with a shallow angle on the edge of the Tires, but i think this is a better look?



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Rivets...I agree...I look at some photos, and the rivets are virtually invisible.
And then I look at another photo and they can be seen from miles away!

The same holds true for the edges and seams of all the surface panels.
I think we tend to exaggerate these lines (on most paper models) because the scaled down model
looks bare and unrealistic without them.  But as you add the panel lines, it can become more cartoonish.

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Heat Shield artwork... I agree with your description tappi, because thats exactly how the discoloured
Stainless Steel Panels look...like they have been airbrushed with the transparent colours.

I didn't want to get too carried away...some panels are heavily discoloured from use and others are
cleaner looking because they are newer.
Since these models are of clean looking aircraft, I don't want to go too far.

Another thing I have learned when painting paper models is the print out is not always the same as what
you see on the screen. Lower quality printers can't handle all the subtle colour effects.
If you want things to print out better and be more visible you have to over contrast the original file.
It will usually soften down and become less contrasted when printed.

In this case, I don't want the heat shield to be a primary focus, so my colouring is fairly subdued
and it will hopefully be visible but not overpower the model when its printed.

Anyway, I copied the first heat shield colouring directly from a photo.
So, I grabbed another photo, of another P-51, and made some changes.
Hows this?...


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Re: 1/33 P-51D Mustangs
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 10:53:36 AM »
The orinal looked fine and so does this and I should have been more specific: the blunt end could be sharper, there could be one ore two more colors involved. I just had something like in this photo (http://rwphotos.photoshelter.com/image/I0000HfFZYqhc5VA) in my mind like, effect in the pic is a bit too much I agree but the color variations are interesting. Your choice anyway, your doing fine job with this. And everything you said about the relation of the artwork and printing it is so very true.

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