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Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« on: June 26, 2012, 10:52:42 AM »
I am surprised that the  CadPat Centurion has never been modeled in card!!

I have a friend that drove these puppies around Germany "back in the day".  This tank needs a model, methinks!!

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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 11:26:39 AM »
Well Jim, then its up to you to start designing one!

A model like this might be complicated, in its part count, but easy in its part design.
All flat, angular parts....other than a Gun barrel or such, no rounded parts.

Remember, theres always plenty of us around who can help you through the design process.

As a matter of fact, if you get the basic s worked out, i might be interested in partnering up on the design.
Wouldn't be something I want to do right away, but maybe in the coming year?


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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 06:04:27 PM »
Dr. Dave:  I cannot design, but I still can BETA BUILD!!   Come on, Cdn Designers!! ;-) Jim :D
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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 06:34:29 PM »
One thing you can do with threads like this is start posting links to
good reference info for anyone who might want to tackle the design.
(Since I can't say how quickly I will get to this idea, theres always room for someone else to step in)

I'm not suggesting filling a thread with photos that are easily found by anyone doing an image search...
but as a model designer myself, I am always looking for more detailed things like original plans, drawings and blueprints.
Digital and 3D illustrations can be handy too.

Full walk-around photo galleries are one of my favorite reference sources.
And any website dedicated to the topic 9with historical background info.

The Prime Portal is one of those sites that is full of photo walkarounds of all kinds of vehicles (air, land, sea).
I see at least 20 galleries for "Centurion".
Maybe take a look see, and link back to any that are relevant to this topic?

Prime Portal (Home Page): http://www.primeportal.net/home.htm
Prime Portal Armored Vehicle index: http://www.primeportal.net/the_battlefield_armor.htm
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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 07:38:40 PM »
OKAY! I have started on this project!!!

Yup...a Centurion Tank!

I have already begun gathering reference material.
I have three photo walk around sets and a number of reference books.
I also have a few nice scale drawings.
But I am still hunting for some plans or blueprints.

Something a little more detailed and in-depth than scale drawings.
Any help would be appreciated.

I am also trying to get my hands on a model kit.
1/48 or larger is what I want.
In fact, there is a nice 1/35 scale Tamiya kit.
(I have bid on a couple on eBay, but no luck yet)
This is a must, since there are some complicated shapes that I want a 3D feel for.

As of right now, my plan is a 1/18 scale model.
yes, it will be big...about 16" long (over 20" including the Gun barrel)

This will keep it in scale with Little Willie, which would make a nice shelf display!
I also want to have some fun with a few details.

I don't plan on a full complicated interior, but I definitely want to provide some
opening hatches and engine covers, so a few interior elements will be necessary.

And I am seriously considering working tracks...but don't hold me to that.

Primary goal will be a Canadian Mk.5.2,
but I would also like to consider a British and Israeli version.
Maybe more.


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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2012, 01:16:39 PM »
Wow...
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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2012, 09:32:25 AM »
Not something I would probably build, but I'd sure like to watch it designed.  I also imagine that it would be a popular model amongst the Armor crowd.
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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2012, 11:11:52 PM »
Wow, Dave! I'll keep my fingers crossed then!

Speaking for myself, I would rather have detailed exterior than some elements of interior. But that's just me  ;)
If I find something interesting on the subject, I'll post it here.
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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 09:40:07 PM »
I drove an Israeli Centurion (Called "Whip" in IDF vernacular) back in the 1973 war on the Golan Heights and later comanded one. I would definitely love to build a large model of the Israeli version.

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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 09:57:46 AM »
Dave
Have you seen this website?
http://miniarmour.net/2011/12/09/centurion-shot-kal/#more-1539
I was in the 7th brigade - the 77th regiment. This build represents our "Shot Kal" tanks very well.
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Re: Canadian Pattern Centurion Tank with 105 mm Gun
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2012, 10:19:03 AM »
I already have that model...the 1/35 AFV kit. (IDF Shot Centurion)
I also have a 1/72 scale Airfix kit, but its a little small for visual reference.

Its not really a concern to me that it is an Israeli version*.

I bought it a while back as a form of reference.
Its a nice model...and considerably cheaper than any other
comparable plastic model.

Not being a Tank guy, I had difficulty wrapping my head around
some of the structures and shapes that I was seeing in photos.

Tanks have a lot of attached structures on top of the basic
components and I think it can be difficult to understand these
under-structures...especially when trying to design the vehicle
in paper. A 3D reference helps me understand whats underneath.

I may not even have to open the parts bag! The instruction pages show me
most of what I needed to understand as far as structure and assembly.
The diagrams in this kit are going to be a big help for me (I think),
and when I am done I can resell the kit!

*My first goal is to produce a Canadian Centurion. 
After that, I would probably consider a British one.
If the process works and theres enough interest,
American and Israeli versions are a distinct possibility.
This plastic kit will also provide me with reference for Israeli colouring.

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