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wagnmkr

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What Is Involved ....
« on: October 06, 2012, 05:17:06 PM »
I have just downloaded the Alan Rose DC3 kit, and being a total newbie to all this, I am wondering what is involved in doing a repaint of a kit like this.

I am doing one as it is, but I would also like to do one in the livery of a Canadian company, Buffalo Air.

I use an Apple computer so that may hinder the idea a bit, software wise, but there are many programs available.

Can it be as simple as opening a page in the selected software, outlining and changing the desired color, and saving it again? I know that is extremely simplified, but am I on the right track?

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Tom
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Dave Winfield

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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2012, 07:21:43 PM »
Since I have the file in question, lets deal with a couple of things first.

The file is clean vector artwork which makes it a lot nicer to work with.

The kit also includes a "blank" version, for you to "colour" yourself.
So, you don't even need to do any work here!...its all ready for you to open
the pages in whatever graphics editor or Paint program you have.

Lastly...repainting the file (especially as Buffalo Air) will be for your own private use.
You cannot share the finished repaint with anyone.
Unless you contacted Alan Rose and got his permission to do so.
(And Buffalo Air, since they are quite protective of their trademark.)

You can show us what you are doing, you can share photos of you repaint.
But you can't share the repainted model.

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what you described is one possible method of repainting a page.

it depends on what you are trying to do, what you expect as a final product,
how much work you intend on doing to achieve that final product
and what type of page you are working with.

I can say, that not all my repaints are done in exactly the same manner.

In this case, you are not really changing any colours...the basic colour or metal of the aircraft might stay the same.
What you are really changing will be the graphics and logos on the aircraft.
(Although, if you want a white painted aircraft, the blank white template would work very well)

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As far as repainting goes, you need a Graphics Editing program that you are familiar with
or some sort of "Paint" program that you understand.

To recolour the already coloured parts in this kit, you will need a Graphics Editing program that
will allow you to import a PDF file, retain some of the vector qualities,
and offer you separate "objects" that you can edit and/or delete.
Then you will be able to replace or modify the markings and colours on the plane.

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what software do you have? what do you want to work with?
what are you familiar with?


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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 07:28:40 AM »
Hi Dave,

Thanks for your explanation of the process.

I am doing the unpainted plane to start with and I might try airbrushing it to the scheme I want, although I am not a good paiter.

As far as software goes, I have Photoshop elements, Pixelmator and Sketchup on the Apple, and I also have a Linux machine that has Gimp and a couple of others on. I don't have a Windows machine at all.

I understand the copyright and license thing totally and a repaint in Buffalo Air (or any other airlines for that matter) would be strictly for my own use, and other than a photograph, would not be shared in any way. I simply want a Canadian one on my wall, and Buffalo colors would be my first choice. 

The first thing I need to do is learn how to build this kit and get one done that I am happy with ... then I will carry on from there.

Thanks for your help Dave, and I am sure there will be many questions, both about the building and the painting.

Cheers,

Tom
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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2012, 08:08:54 AM »


I would suggest Gimp as your choice for repainting this model.
Just import the pages you wish to recolour, delete any existing colour
elements that you don't want to keep, and then create new colour
behind the line artwork (adding layers is okay too, although I generally
just stack "objects").

You'll need to start by creating a background gray(metal) layer.
In front of that you need your upper white and green colour areas.
There's also a red striping between the bare and painted areas.
Some Black on the nose and underside.
And lastly the lettering and noseart can go on top of everything.

I also noticed that this kit is to be printed on large scale paper
(to get the "6'4" wingspan")
If you print on Letter size paper (make sure you choose a specific
print scaling - don't just choose to fit to page) the model will turn out
to be somewhere around 3' wingspan.

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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2012, 08:34:36 AM »
Thanks Dave.

I am doing this model in the full, 6' 4" size and I have an A3 scanner/copier/printer. I shall fire up the gimp and get practicing with it.

The recolor will be a while as this is more or less my first full paper project and there is a bunch that I need to learn as I go. As I mentioned earlier, I am doing the plain one first and when that one is done, I can play with the airbrush.

I have the first three pieces nearly done, but I am likely going to have to redo them as my folding of the thicker material seems to be leaving a bit to be desired. 

What do you use to score the heavier stock?

Cheers,

Tom
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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2012, 08:44:50 AM »
The problem with folding thicker material, is the same problem with folding
laminated materials. Inner layers try to separate and move from the outer
layers (as you fold) and  thicker cards tend to angle-crease and distort at the fold.

Personally I use a scoring tool that I made for all my scoring needs.
Its an older Hobby Craft Knife (black handle, so its different from my other
knives and easy to spot).

I used a standard (No.11?) blade and flattened out the edge with a file, and
then a stone.  I try to kep the edge rounded, but its probably more square
than anything else.
It will still break through paper fibers, if I push hard enough, but generally it
just puts a crease into the card.

But you will still have a problem getting clean folds and smooth bends with  thicker cards.
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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 09:16:27 AM »
Thanks, that gives me some idea of what to try. I have a bunch of old hobby knives that I could convert ... I will try a couple.

I just went and looked, and there is a new version of Gimp and it works on my Mac ... it is now installed, working, and it is quick as well, so when I get tired of cutting and gluing, I will try and teach myself how to do some of this designing stuff.

Looks like it won't be a boring winter after all!

Cheers

Tom

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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 08:40:54 AM »
Hi Dave ... I tried using Gimp and I was able to change the color on a part and print it out. Very rudimentary at this point, but with some more stick time on Gimp, I might be able to do what I want.

I also altered one of my hobby knives and it is working much better for the scoring.

I am using the center wing section/motor mount area to experiment with my card thickness/folding/cutting techniques. I will also use this section to figure out the wiring/mounting for the working propellers/landing lights. I have all the parts I need just sitting here so I might as well give it a go.

Cheers

Tom
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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 01:10:55 PM »
Looking forward to a build thread on this project
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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2012, 01:17:53 PM »
VK, I am almost ready to start a build thread. I have now found a local supply of 250 g/m ² (12 point or 92lb, whatever way you want to measure it.) paper. I have done a test and it is easy to score and fold, and seems strong enough, so I am going to redo the first three pieces I have done, do some better scoring/folding/gluing and I am away.

So far I am following the instructions in order and there has been not fit issues. I just need to discover where I need to put more holes for wires to run through.

Cheers

Tom
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Re: What Is Involved ....
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 03:36:58 AM »
wagnmakr-


Sounds like an interesting project, looking forward to your progress.

You might also look into Inkscape for the Mac. Like GIMP, it is also open source, and also free. Unlike GIMP, Inkscape is a vector-format program, versus bitmap for GIMP. I haven't done a whole lot with it yet, it looks very worthwhile. Maybe a bit of a learning curve, but I'm suspecting it will be more because of menu and tool "look and feel" versus what I'm used to (an older version of Adobe Illustrator).

Good luck with your efforts!
Glenn