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Dave Winfield

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1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« on: May 23, 2013, 03:31:11 PM »
For some time I have wanted to "overhaul" the Spitfire kit and produce some new versions.

My original four Spitfire kits were based on a old Marek model that I upscaled to 1/33 scale
and modified in a number of ways.  Four versions are still offered as part of the Unique and
Unusual Paint Schemes Series.

Its time to finally bring the kit back into the "shop" and update it with a new vector redraw,
improved details and textures, modified parts and assembly...and a whole new set of repaints!

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First up is a very unique vehicle that not too many people know about.
The Spitfire "Beer Truck".
Modified to deliver kegs of Beer to victorious and thirsty troops in France after D-Day!
A number of aircraft were commissioned for this task, including a handful of wing pylon
equipped Mk.9 Spits.

This model is of one such 132 Squadron Spitfire.

Available now at www.papermodelshop.com

and here, at ecardmodels.com: http://www.ecardmodels.com/index.php/1-33-supermarine-spitfire-raf-beer-truck-xxx-mod-paper-model.html






   


     
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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 11:51:09 PM »
Dave,
Nice looking bird, but I have a question a little off subject. I know paper models use 1/33 as a standard but why? Why not 1/32, especially when it's a redo? I recently completed a model (not yours) sold as 1/33 on cover and says 1/32 on all the other pages. Just curious.
Do you have any US Hellcats in your collection?

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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 08:38:09 AM »
Thats the 'merican in you talking! lol
And boy, we've had plenty of discussions regarding scale sizes.

All I know, is when I started doing repaints three or four years ago, my first kits
were Marek kits and I followed his example with 1/33 and 1/50 scales.
My Nobi Hercules kits ended up being 1/48 scale, since that's what he used.
(Marek is Polish I believe, and Nobi is in Thailand)

1/33 and 1/32 are so close that I am sometimes perplexed as to why its such a big issue
and although I try to get proper measurements, there are always some inaccuracies...so
I could easily lie and say its a 1/32 kit and probably nobody would notice!

I think North Americans have established some "standard" scale sizes
based on the choices of North American plastic model makers.
But scale "standards" have varied in other parts of the world.

And lets not forget, North Americans like to think they invented everything. lol

Here we have a few "standard" scales for specific subjects.
Like 1/32 and 1/48 for aircraft.
But there also seems to be a lot more scale inaccuracy and "fit to box"
especially with Automotive kits.

I get the impression that model makers and builders in Europe were not as
hung up on the specific scale of a model.

1/33 (for aircraft) is very common in Europe, where all this paper modeling started.
Just like 1/50 scale...rather than 1/48.

I really don't know why.

1/50 is a common European diecast scale
but I can't give any other examples of why they used 1/33 scale.

Maybe they adjusted the first models to fit the paper sizes?
To get a wing part on to an A4 size page?
But given the variations in wing sizes, that theory doesn't hold up too well.

What is this kit that has 1/33 on the cover, and 1/32 on the pages?



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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 11:50:16 AM »
EH!
Thanks for the reply, it's nice to have the "foreign" perspective :) We have the same problem with 1/24-1/25 plastic auto kits, some are close and some are way off.
The reason I asked was mostly for contests where I recently entered in Large Scale 1/32 and larger but 1/33 is really smaller? Silly I know, but you're right most will not notice in fact most did not know it was even paper!
The kit was a P40E a redraw by G. Chen for Paper AircraftWerkes available thru eCardModels.

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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 12:13:48 PM »
In the case of a contest, I would probably lie and adjust the scale size to suit the category.
1/33 - 1/32  who's gonna notice the difference?
I think a scale category falls into the "more of a guideline than a rule" idea.

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The kit was a P40E a redraw by G. Chen for Paper AircraftWerkes available thru eCardModels.

Since I am on staff at ecm, I will take a look at this model.

Can you confirm the model.
The two P40s at ecm (by paper aircraftwerkes)
dont seem to have cover pages and are both 1/32 scale.
One is a B and the other a C model (not E)
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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2013, 09:20:05 PM »
Dave,
The P40 B is the one flown by Ken Taylor. So used to saying P40E, sorry. I'd send a copy of the cover but can't remember how.

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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2013, 10:00:22 PM »
Its okay, we checked 'em all...figured it out.
There are a couple of repaints (not Chen's originals) that have the scale error.
We will adjust the covers and/or the listings so there is no confusion.
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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 05:23:39 PM »
Thanks Dave for going to all the trouble, I was just curious. Back to work on the "Lady Be Good". One other question though as you are involved with ecm. Is the site down while Chris travels to Europe I think? I have tried to order something from my account but the e store will not respond for a couple weeks now.

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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 05:34:10 PM »
site is up, Chris is not in Europe, everything should work.

the site had issues last month, and it was eventually switched to new servers.
but everything has been working properly for some time now.

if you are having problems you should contact Chris and let him know.
(I just passed along this post to the ecm crew)
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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 01:32:59 PM »
Ha! I always resond to the same question on why 1/33, I say "because the paper used 50-60 years ago was hard to fold". They go happy with that.

Dr. Zarkov's models are also designed in 1/32. But like Dave says... who notices that and who cares? I haven't seen any judge in the model competitions with a rules in her/his hand.

But it is a highly phylosophical theme on the forums.

Question on the Spit... are you planning to add the complete cockpit? Maybe a redo of the Msutang?
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Re: 1/33 Supermarine Spitfire
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 01:43:12 PM »
As I have said, I am working on a cockpit for the Spitfire.
But I don't know how soon it will be finished.
I really need to get some work done on my Centurion first.

When a cockpit is done, it will be included in all Spitfire models.
And it will be available free to anyone who bought older Spitfire models.
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