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Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« on: June 15, 2014, 01:02:27 PM »
So, I got this request for a "memorial" model.
The family of a WW2 hero who flew a number of different aircraft,
and trained to fly B29 bombers near the end of the War.
The facts are sketchy...as far as what he flew in, what he trained on, where, when,etc

but in the end, I have agreed to do a "fantasy" B-24 in the form of a C-87/AT-22
with various markings and artwork representing different aspects of this Pilot's career.
This will be a one-off just for them.

But first...
I have to create a kit of a C-87
(from that I can create an AT-22, the B-29 Flight Engineer Training aircraft)

The C-87 Liberator Express is the "transport" version of the B-24D.
There are a few differences, but mainly just a modified B-24D - armaments and Turrets removed,
nose and tail fairings added, nose Cargo door and left side fuselage cargo doors added.
A floor was added in the Bomb Bay area, seats and windows to accommodate about 3 dozen passengers.







I am still trying to locate a photo of an AT-22.
The AT-22 is variant of the C-87 aircraft...only five of which were produced.
I am under the impression that all differences* (from a C-87) are interior.
*to accommodate Instructors, training equipment and trainees.

But I would really like to confirm any visible exterior differences by seeing an actual photo.

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The C-87
I have completed the two major modifications of the B-24D model by altering the Nose and Tail sections.

I have to send out big thanks to Gary Pilsworth who created the basic 3D models for the new nose and tail fairings.
For some reason I really struggled with my first nose redesign....and combined with too many other projects on the go,
I just couldn't get going on the work. So I reached out to Gary, who I know does great 3D model work, and he graciously
helped me with a simple, but well designed three part template for each modification.


Just a tweak here and there...add some texture and colour and surface details...and there it is.
These are the two final test builds of the new nose and tail parts.
Not sure if I will build the entire fuselage, but this confirms what I needed to know.








I have got most of the B-24 kit converted over to "bare metal" finish
and I have also added the new parts.
Next job is to update the Instruction pages
and then make sure all uneccessary parts are removed from the kit.
eg guns, turret parts, bomb bay details, etc

I plan on producing a US version as depicted in the first photo in this thread.
In fact it will be 44-52987

I will also do this BOAC version (shown below)
Apparently plenty of C-87s went to England for use in Ferry transport across the Atlantic and into northern Europe.
BOAC airlines bought a few for their civilian transport efforts.
So I think that will make a cool model with the RAF insignia and BOAC logos.



Reminder, if anyone comes across a photo of one of the AT-22s, I would love to see it!



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Re: Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 08:36:57 PM »
Interesting project.  I'll see what I can come up with, but I doubt my sources are as good as yours.
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Re: Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 09:16:42 AM »
Well, I have finished all the fuselage modifications to the C-87
and just have some artwork to clean up.

I tried to assemble the fuselage over the weekend.
And this is what you get when you watch TV and don't pay attention to what you are doing! lol



Granted, I haven't got the most experience with building the B-24 in its entirety.
Yes, I have built every single section and area of the model, but I 've never put them all
together into a full aircraft!


This B24 model uses a "thru-the-body" wing assembly and requires a 3 part Former assembly
that goes in the middle section of the fuselage.
I was rushing...and not paying attention...and fumbling and forcing things together...
and finally I wrinkled (and ripped!) part of the forward section.

After that, I crushed the Tail section where it connects to the center!

Too lazy to build new parts, I trimmed, and smoothed and glued until it was all together.

In the end its passable for a couple of photos.
The goal was mainly just to check artwork as well as Nose and Tail assemblies, so all is well in
those areas.





I have to tweak the side Windows...move the row a little bit and re-align them all.
And I need to try a different "astro-bubble" window on the top.
I don't like the shape of this one.

I do have one question...I can't decide between the plain black window
or the gradient colouring, which represents the glass windows.

Obviously clear windows could be installed using plastic, but thats a builder's option.
If left intact, would you prefer the plain black or gryed look?


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Re: Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 07:38:19 PM »
Dave,

I definitely prefer the look of the gradient colouring on the windows.

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Re: Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 08:23:44 PM »
thanks Gary
...same opinion over at pm.com.
I think thats the way I will leave it then.
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Re: Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 01:45:03 PM »
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Re: Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 04:38:50 PM »
I prefer the gradient windows to the black, but I like to change up the gradient so they look like are reflecting the light differently.

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Re: Consolidated C-87 Liberator Express (B24D)
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 05:02:59 PM »
Thanks Beard!
Thats an excellent idea.
And thats partly why I posted that last photo...to show how even the clear windows show a bit different
as you look down the aircraft (in this case, its the interior shadows).

This is an old thread...with an old question...I was just updating threads with new images (replacing photobucket images)
In this case, I modified some of the old text and added a related photo.
Thats why it showed up as a new post and got your attention.

But, I still appreciate the input...I agree, the gradient effect is a better look, and pretty simple to implement.
Anyone who isn't cutting out the windows will at least have something more interesting to the eye.

Often, I try different effects, gradients, reflections and such (on "glass" windows)
but when windows are this small theres not much point in getting too carried away.
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