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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2017, 11:56:28 AM »
To anyone who is still watching...? anyone?    chirp chirp chirp[sound of crickets]

Heres what I have added/completed so far:

- Finished the side Tube Pod things...all the dome ends have been attached.
- Assembled the Collector Arrays...solar energy collector panels I assume?

- Attached the Cockpit and forward fuselage section with Pylons (to the main fuselage).
- Attached the side Pod things.
- Fitted the four Collector panels.

There are "billboards" attached over the upper Collector Panels...in various images.
They appear to include many sponsors(?) logos.
Murphy has included these "billboard panels" on the Collector Panels (in his kit).

But there appears to be more panels than needed in the kit
...unless maybe he's included Panels without Billboards in case you wish to assemble it that way?
I'm not sure...so I went ahead and used the Billboard panels.

I'm taking a break from the Warp Rings...and I'll work on the upper and lower (central) fuselage Pod things.
and the rear most engine/drive assembly.

Stay tuned.




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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2017, 12:18:33 PM »
What you have there looks really good
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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2017, 04:49:26 PM »
That look really good so far, it will be interesting to see it when you get the ring installed.

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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2017, 05:05:54 PM »
Rings! Theres two of 'em.
I've got one built...not looking forward to building the second one though.
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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2017, 11:14:43 AM »
well, isn't this an interesting thing....

I continued yesterday to redraw the parts for the "Landers".
Thats what Murph calls them on his model sheets.
They are the acorn shaped pods on the "top" and "bottom" of the fuselage.



...
I don't know what they are...but Murph's artwork, again, is pixelated, and lines are wiggly.
I needed to redraw the parts again...as you can see (upper right area of the following screengrab).

You'll also notice underneath the Acorn parts, I've started work redrawing the "Exhaust Bells".
Murph's model sheet shows on the left of the image.



Which brings me to today...I continued working on the Exhaust parts redraw, which is a tedious and time consuming job.
Once I get the outer sections done, I have to figure out the inner liners?
Murph's design for outside and inside part is not correct...the inner parts should be smaller to fit.
And then theres the tabbed joiners...I don't like those either. lol
And conical parts like this will require at least one test build to see if I got the redraw accurate or not.

Anyway, I decided to check the overall colour...maybe add some colour effect of other surface details,
so I went looking for images of the IXS Enterprise...Rademakers original designs.

And thats when I ran into a problem...since I could not immediately find images that showed the engines of the spaceship.
So I am curious as to the reference material Murphy used and where he found it.

I had to widen my search for pictures, and I ended up going through a lot of Rademakers older designs.
he has a couple of Flikr galleries with his 3D artwork.
Seems this spacecraft has evolved through many incarnations and many 3D CGI models.
Some elements have stayed basically the same...some have changed dramatically.

Eventually I found a few shots of the "sub lightspeed engines" and back end of the ship.
And it really doesn't look anything like Murph's design!




Although there are differing designs by Rademaker, the overall look of the sub-light engines stays the same.
And there is no large bell shaped Exhaust Nozzle like on Murph's design..
In fact, Murph's design is extremely different.



...
So, I've decided to try and create a whole new set of parts.
Its probably no more work than finishing the redraw of Murph's existing parts.

But it will be a heck of a lot easier to assemble (than those rings and conical nozzle!)

I'm not going to get too carried away with details or complicated structures.
It wouldn't match the rest of Murph's model.
But I will try to create something that looks more like Rademaker's design.







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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2017, 09:17:31 AM »
Got those funny upper and lower Pod things onto the fuselage.
Another segmented part that didn't fit together very smoothly.

I started by redrawing the parts to get smoother lines and cleaner edges.
But the overlapping tabbed edges didn't give a very smooth finish.
I burnished the part as best I could and glued it to the less visible underside of the craft.

Then I noticed the panel lines on the Pod that didn't quite line up.
Not sure how that happened so I had to redraw the parts again and make adjustments away from the original design.

And, I decided to remove the overlap glue tabs, and create tabbed inside rings.
This made for a smoother look and better looking Pod.

Unfortunately the underside Pod is well glued in place...I tried to remove it...but I will damage things.
So, I am leaving it as is.

I also test fitted the front Warp Ring, which fit perfectly.

I have started assembling the rear Pylons and will move on to the building the second Warp Ring.

Slow going...but STILL going!

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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2017, 07:01:15 PM »
One more update...
I managed to finish the rear warp Ring Pylons today
and got them fitted to the new Engine assembly.

Its all ready to attach to the main fuselage now.



But first, I'll need to create some sort of support or stand,
because once I attach the rear engine, I will lose the only spot (the flat rear end of the spacecraft)
where I can sit it down on my bench!

I will also be starting work on the second Warp Ring assembly, so that might take a while.
there may not be another update for some time.


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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2017, 09:12:46 AM »
Well, heres where I stand with the Enterprise model:

I finally permanently attached the new "engine" section to the rear of the craft.
Thats it, all parts in place.

I finished both Warp Rings.
One Warp Ring has been reskinned with a second layer to smooth out more wrinkles.
I'm contemplating doing the same to the other one.
Unfortunately I am unable to tighten up all the seams/gaps on the Warp Rings...maybe some glue filler will help.
The Warp Rings are an improvement over the original and subsequent designs, but not perfect.

They do however fit nicely onto the Pylons...I won't glue them until a final display support is decided on.
What you see in the photos is a quick stand made from cheap foamcore board.
I can't actually fit the Warp Rings because they hit the outside supports of the stand,


I have yet to hear back from the local Hobby Store...I asked about getting a custom display case built.
I did look at Michaels Craft Stores...they have a couple of larger display cases available.
But the largest case doesn't offer any extra room...it will be a tight fit for the model.
If I knew more about buying and assembling acrylic, I'd try it myself, but...

As I said, I have to think about how to support the model for display.
It appears there are only two narrow spots on the central fuselage that can be used.
I prefer not to support by the Warp Rings as the attachment points are small and weak (between Warp Ring and Pylons).




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Re: IXS Enterprise Spacecraft by Murph's Models (Commission)
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2017, 11:19:49 AM »
Looks really good, sir.  I wish I had some ideas on the display but no
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