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Dave Winfield

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Printing - Using printers and Print Services
« on: January 08, 2012, 08:51:46 AM »
I know a lot of builders rely on Print Service outlets to print out their Model Pages before building.
...better resolution, more details, sharper lines, etc than most Home Printers can provide.

You also have access to a wide array of paper types and weights without having to purchase excessive
quantities of different card and paper stocks.

Anyone else print out my 2012 Calendar?
Just curious...

I had Staples print mine earlier this week.
I used an 11" x 17" semi gloss 80lb paper.
Final cost was about $2 a page.

...but its a little colour over-saturated.
The ink is strong and the colours are strong and dark.
Looks okay, but I have a feeling it may have printed with increased vibrancy settings.

I told them to print the file "as is", but the first (test) print revealed that it was scaled down to fit the page
leaving way too much edge border and making all the images smaller.
They said "oh yes we automatically do that with all jobs."
So I said "well don't do it with mine! I told you to print as-is!"

So, I wouldn't be surprised if they also have colour adjustments in place too!

Just an FYI for anyone using the print services at places like Staples
...pay attention to their in-house default print settings
and make sure they give you what you want and need from your print jobs.

Scaling can be a big problem when doing Model Pages.
"Print to fit" for example is not consistent from page to page. The printer scales the page elements
down to fit onto the page with no exact scale reduction in mind. And each page could be different
so you end up with different scale model parts from page to page.

Make sure the Print Shop prints test pages...colour would be nice if you can get it.
Examine them carefully before you agree to your final print.

It might also be a good idea to bring something to check colour values against the colour prints.
An item that has the correct colour(s) on it or even a home test colour print that you understand.
For example print out a test page and make notes on it detailing how colours should look if they
don't appear quite right. You can still compare this to the Print Shop colour output.

Just a few ideas to help with your trip to the printer.
Please feel free to add more tips or relate your own experiences with Print Shops.
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Re: Printing - Using printers and Print Services
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 04:34:55 PM »
I always go to a print shop where I can use the computer to check files, make changes, print files the way I want it... If not, I won't print with them.

Of course the printings are warranted.
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Re: Printing - Using printers and Print Services
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 02:22:14 PM »
Gerardo brought up a good point recently...
he had a model printed at the local Print shop...and had an accident with one of the parts.
He returned to the print shop to get new parts printed, but they came out different colour.

Now he has to reprint a larger number of parts and throw out some already assembled parts!

This is always an issue with reprinting parts.
Even Home Printers can produce serious differences between parts on different pages,
or parts printed at different times.

Its always best to group printing projects...either print everything at once
or only print parts as needed, but keeping groups of adjoining parts together.
At least with a Home printer, you can reprint parts and make small adjustments
if you run into a problem with colour variation.

When using a Print Shop, it can be more difficult to control the output.
Obviously someone else controls the printer(s).

Only suggestion I have is print your entire kit at once.
Use one machine and the same type of papers.

If possible, ask the Staff for some details about the print job.
Things like:
1. note the particular machine used.
2. ask for a list of all printer settings, especially any changes to default settings.
3. note the particular batch of paper/card
4. ask if the printer has been serviced or Ink replaced since your last visit.

if you are forced to return for replacement parts, you can give all this information
to the Print Staff and they can attempt to recreate the print output as closely as possible.
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Re: Printing - Using printers and Print Services
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2013, 11:48:46 AM »
Thanks for the remarks, Dave.
I had to go a third time because of the color differences.
And that 3rd time got the colors right.
But I anyway re-built the whole wing structure (C-130 from the National Science Foundation), wich is a cream-white color.
Good points you made Dave, and if the budget allows it, print 2 copies at the same location and at the same moment.
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